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Our Editor Subhash Motwani was recently in South Africa and he interviewed Noor Ebrahim of District Six, Capetown and Richard Walsh, a ranger at Phinda Game Reserve, Kwa Zulu Natal. Here are the interviews taken by Subhash Motwani during his FUNDI Trip to South Africa…..rightly representing the agony of apartheid and ecstasy thereafter.

A tête-à-tête with Noor Ebrahim at The District Six Museum
It was until 10 years ago that every Indian Passport had a very glaring statement “This passport is valid for all countries except South Africa" but today Indian visitors can visit South Africa and the year 2004 is indeed special as South Africa is celebrating 10 years of independence - independence from the apartheid regime. Our editor during his visit to South Africa caught up with Noor Ebrahim- one of the Founder Members of the District Six Museum and he shares with us how the museum which was established in 1994 has brought a lot of meaning in his life and those who spent their life in District Six.

As Noor says “By reminding you of District Six and Racism we do not want to recreate District Six but to work with its memory of hurts inflicted and received, of loss, achievements and of shame. We wish to remember so that we can all together and by ourselves rebuild a city which belongs to all of us, in which all of us can live, not as races but as people.”

About Noor Ebrahim & story of disaster

Noor Ebrahim was born at 247 Caledon street, District Six, where he grew up and lived with his family up to the age of 26. After leaving school he worked for Reader's Digest until 1986. He laid the Foundation of the District Six Museum. Some of the most recognizable and most frequently reproduced images of District Six were taken with the Voigtlander camera that he bought during the apartheid days. He is now the Education officer at the District Six Museum. He shares with us the disaster that struck the people of District Six.

Noor, tell me your experiences during the apartheid days?
District Six was a very cosmopolitan town. I think that was the major problem. In District Six we had all communities like Indians, English, Portuguese, Chinese, Japanese, Christians. We all lived here like one big family. And this, the government did not like. So in 1966, the Cape was declared as a 'white' area and in 1970 they started destroying the houses and the beautiful buildings.

Even the holy places like the churches and mosques were destroyed. It took them almost 11 years to do that and in the bargain a lot of people were killed. The government divided the area as per the racial discrimination and called it “coloured” and “black”. Some were forced to go to the black township and some to the coloured. All the families were split up. The government was crazy and I remember when they were bulldozing our homes I was watching them

What was the impact of this on your family?
It was 9 years after District Six was declared as a 'white' area that the darkness descended on my family. Everyday on my way home from work I saw that the bulldozers came closer to our house. I had just one month to clear my house. I made arrangements to buy a house in Athlone. Luckily my children were too young to fully understand what was happening. On the last day the lorry that I had hired was filled with our furniture. My wife and children crowded into the Beetle with our belongings. I drove away from Caledon Street and then stopped the car in the middle of the road and I had to look at the house one more time. Yet I could not end it there. Each day on my way to work I used to stop my car and stare at my house. A week later I passed my street again and saw that the house was gone. Even the rubble had been removed. I stood on the vacant plot with desolation in my heart.

Did anyone revolt when the demolition was taking place?
You see it was very difficult. We could have resisted but they were inside the boundary and they could have put us in prison for days or even years. They were very cruel and we were afraid of them.

Have you moved in back to District Six?
Not yet but I am looking forward to because the new government has promised that around 2000-4000 houses would be built. I am so excited I can't wait to move in. The process of Restitution of Land Rights is quite slow.

What inspired you to start the museum?
The board of trustees got the idea of starting the museum but why I became involved is while they were bulldozing I had taken a lot of photographs from the camera that I bought with my brother Hoosain. We wanted to capture scenes from what was left of District Six before it disappeared completely. In fact the very first exhibition of the museum was of my photographs.

Have you been to India?
No not yet. But my grandfather who was of Indian origin came to District Six from Surat towards the end of the 19th century. He established a general dealers shop in District Six and by 1920, a Ginger Beer factory

How has it been after 1994?
There have been a lot of changes. One of the most important changes is the setting up of a Commission on Restitution Of Land Rights. On the 26th of November 2000, President Thabo Mbeki handed the certificate confirming ownership to the Chairperson of the District Six Beneficiary Trust. What makes South Africa different from other countries is the smooth transition that has taken place after apartheid. It is ten years since we were free from the apartheid regime and no country can change within 10 years. We have to give the government time. It could take another 10-20 years. I am very optimistic. What is important is that the apartheid days have gone and now it is so wonderful to be free.

What has been the effect of the post-apartheid days on the people being discriminated as black or coloured? How have people accepted these facts?
People have to accept these facts because it is a new South Africa. The youngsters do not keep the colour discrimination in mind.

How has the District Six museum received world acknowledgement and support?
Famous people from all over the world acknowledge the museum's importance, and we have welcomed their visits and tributes. The first prominent person to visit the museum was United States Vice President Al Gore, in December 1995. Not long after in came Mrs Mary Robinson, President of Ireland. Her humanitarian interest and concern was appreciated by all who met her. Next to visit us was the charming Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, who arrived on 4th October, 1996. It was an opportunity for me to thank the Dutch government for their donation of 250000 Rands which was crucial to the establishment of the museum. In 1997, King Carl Gustaf and Queen Silvia of Sweden honoured us with a visit. Sweden gave generous support to the liberation struggle in South Africa for many years. In February 1999, Queen Sophia of Spain and her husband came to the museum with Graca Machel.

It was because of this that I had the opportunity to ask Graca Machel to introduce me to our then President, Mr. Nelson Mandela. Like Noor, there are many individuals in South Africa who share their experiences of the apartheid days and remind us all of how it is wonderful to live in a free world.

Noor Ebrahim is currently an Educational Officer at District Six Museum and he has written a book Noor's Story - My Life in District Six which was first published in 1999. To know more about District Six Museum you can visit www.districtsix.co.za